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A few of my tanks

Description: A few of my tanks in my bedroom.

Top-left: 20gal long, Turtle tank (Razorback Musk, RES, 3 Danios)

Top-right: 55gal (Comet, Shubunkin, 3 albino cories, dojo loach, common pleco)

Bottom-right: 10gal (leopard gecko juvenile)

Bottom-center: 10 Q-tank (4 apple snails, canna and brig)

Bottom-right: 20gal long (southern fence lizard)

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FLECK

Registered: 10/2004
Posts: 109

Great set ups. How do your turtles get a long?
I read musks are rather "mean"? Other than the res do the other turtles basK?
I am considering them for a 40 long tank and wanted to know 50 land 50 water would be best way to go.
Fleck
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01-30-2005 01:37PM View FLECK's Profile View FLECK's Gallery  

toothless

Registered: 05/2004
Location: northeast florida, usa
Posts: 20
born and raised in florida, deep fascination with its wildlife and surrounding ocean/gulf

I'm not positive about other peoples razorbacks, but mine sure seems pretty docile. No aggression whatsoever. In 6 years of having her, she has never once basked!

I highly suggest that if you were to get any musks or razorbacks that you keep them in a 40 gallon breeder tank with the smallest basking spot possible.The rest should be open water for them to browse along the bottom.
02-01-2005 09:50AM View toothless's Profile View toothless's Gallery  

FLECK

Registered: 10/2004
Posts: 109

Thanks for the info. if I can ask you two more questions.
How deep do you think the water should be just for musks no other turtles?
Ideal temp?
Not much info on their care out there thats why I ask.
Fleck
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02-01-2005 01:54PM View FLECK's Profile View FLECK's Gallery  

toothless

Registered: 05/2004
Location: northeast florida, usa
Posts: 20
born and raised in florida, deep fascination with its wildlife and surrounding ocean/gulf

You can feed them cooked chicken, raw beef, crickets, super mealies and waxworms , turtle pellets (and basically any other freshfish pellets). Any foods that you feed that are high in fat should be fed sparingly because they have the tendency to get obese to the point that health complications entail. Should you notice that they start to get a little fat, just cut back on the amounts at each feeding. Just thought i'd add that in there.

As for your questions:

The ideal temps for these guys (IMO) is anywhere from 65-80. It's probably even best to not utilize a heater unless you get temp swings outside of that range. I have personally witnessed musk turtles living in 74 degree springwater and the rivers the springs feed.

The ideal water depth is one of much controversy. I personally dont think that the water can be too deep in any standard long tank. But, There must be a stone walkway or driftwood setup so that they dont have to swim to get air. That, I think, is a bit too stressful for them. I mean, their movements more closely resemble tortoises than aquatic turtles. To prove my point, I watched a half grown musk turtle climb up a piling of a dock to get air rather than swim to the surface (wich it could easily do). something to keep in mind is the fact that they cannot float at the surface like other aquatic species.

The only reason why I have both turtles in that tank is because of a lack of space right now. The RES is a shellrot rescue from a pond down the street wich is basically a ditch. I will be releasing it into a turtle pond a few miles away wich is much bigger and more hospitable to turtles. As soon as it is released, I will be setting up my 40 gallon breeder for her once again.

If you have any more questions, just ask. I like talking shop!
02-01-2005 05:35PM View toothless's Profile View toothless's Gallery  

FLECK

Registered: 10/2004
Posts: 109

Thanks a lot for the great info. From the look of your tank I am guessing around 4 or 5 inches of water.
Thats what I will use and ofcourse things like driftwood half in water half out so they( I intend to get two)can use that as a ramp to get air easily.
Thanks a ton.
Fleck
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02-01-2005 05:54PM View FLECK's Profile View FLECK's Gallery  

toothless

Registered: 05/2004
Location: northeast florida, usa
Posts: 20
born and raised in florida, deep fascination with its wildlife and surrounding ocean/gulf

Thats actually 7 inches of water there. You can safely go as deep as permits your musk turtle to stand up on its hind legs and grab a breath of water. For a full grown razorback (6 inches) 8 inches of water is perfect. Also, concentrate on keeping as much square footage of the bottom open for walkabouts. They will use all of it with intrest. Cave-like structures are also used frequently. And last but not least, sand and river rocks are the best substrates because they dont allow much detritus to settle into it. This will allow your filte to collect much more waste than with gravel.

Sorry, I just thought of some more pointers that might help. :)
02-01-2005 08:58PM View toothless's Profile View toothless's Gallery  

FLECK

Registered: 10/2004
Posts: 109

Thanks. I ordered a 40 breeder tank after your last post. The pet store doesnt normally carry them but it should be in withing two weeks.
I am a water change fanatic so in my case gravel is easier to vacuum than sand.
I was planning on using natural round river type gravel. I have fish to and since I do around 50% water changes weekly with aged dechlorinated water gravel was actually easier.
If you think gravel might be a danger if ingested I will use sand which is nice to.
Fleck
02-02-2005 12:53PM View FLECK's Profile View FLECK's Gallery  

toothless

Registered: 05/2004
Location: northeast florida, usa
Posts: 20
born and raised in florida, deep fascination with its wildlife and surrounding ocean/gulf

With musk turtles, gravel eating isn't much of a problem. They seem to be very careful about eating their food. Sinking foods being best for musks, does pose a bit of a worry for young musks as their digestive tracts haven't reach their full capacity.

Any time mine ever accidentally got a peice of gravel in its mouth while going after some chicken or something it would immediately spit it back out. Sliders on the other hand will try to eat pretty much anything, including gravel.

If you get a youngun, I would go with the smallest grade gravel you can find until it reaches at least 4 inches in length. After that, most gravel grades can pass through if any were to be accidentally injested.

So your a waterchange freak too, huh? Those darn nitrAtes can be a pain in the neck. I too change out 50% of the water in all of my tanks. Regardless of the nitrates.

Good luck with your new turtle tank! Any chance you can post a few pics when you get it all set-up? By the way, what kind of musk are you wanting? Razorback? Loggerhead?
02-02-2005 04:52PM View toothless's Profile View toothless's Gallery  

FLECK

Registered: 10/2004
Posts: 109

Oh yes when everything is set up and I have turtles will post a few pics. I intend to get a razor musk same type you have.
lol yes water changes are the key.
Thanks.
Fleck
02-02-2005 05:10PM View FLECK's Profile View FLECK's Gallery  

otis07

Registered: 11/2005
Location: earth
Posts: 269
RES, WTF, aussi, FBT, hingebac tortoise, ocelot gecko, leos, oregon newt, FB newt, uro, russian tortoise, tinctorius darts, standard imitator, imitator intermedius, panaguan lamsi, leucomelas, auratus, vietnamese mossy frogs, lots of fish + crawfish

20 gallons is way to small for that many turtles, i have one turtle and he's in a 75 gallon, i hope you knew that. contact me if you have any questions.
01-10-2006 06:04PM View otis07's Profile View otis07's Gallery  

ANIMALmenagerie

Registered: 07/2004
Posts: 23

For more info on turtles go to www.turtletimes.com. Some of the info the poster of this picture has given is incorrect. Please go to this site as it will help you in the long run. and don't buy from turtlesale!
07-28-2006 01:58PM View ANIMALmenagerie's Profile View ANIMALmenagerie's Gallery