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Luis

Registered: 07/2002
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Thats outrageous looks like a zoo enclosure. I dont have Jacksons only snakes and they would love something like that .
Real rocks or "homemade" rocks?
Rating: 5/5 
08-28-2006 08:29AM View Luis's Profile View Luis's Gallery  

nykon187

Registered: 08/2006
Location: waikiki, HI.
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28 yrs. old, male, chameleon, cichlid lover

thank you much for the comments, all the rock work is diy, and i wish i could have snakes here (hawaii), they are very strict on keeping non-native species off the islands. i am moving back to the main land in a couple of years and this setup will probably house either a snake of some sort or a couple of beardies
08-28-2006 09:06AM View nykon187's Profile View nykon187's Gallery  

Luis

Registered: 07/2002
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Oh yes I know they are strict when it comes to snakes there as they have to be . I have read that some of the Jackson that are now "native" to Hawaii are outstanding looking .
That set is great for your Jackson its just as someone like myself that likes snakes I imagine a snake crawling on the rocks like a cliff or rock wall .
Great job.
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08-28-2006 12:15PM View Luis's Profile View Luis's Gallery  

lizardfreak13

Registered: 09/2005
Location: San Diego, California
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I love Reptiles

Dont mean to be the killjoy here, but i dont think that that cage is suited for a jacksons chameleon. They like ventilation and DENSE foliage to hide in.

Its a great cage with a great animal in it, but not the right animal for that cage
08-30-2006 12:12AM View lizardfreak13's Profile  

Lia

Registered: 04/2004
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What you say is true the cage is great I agree with everyone but not for Jackson. I would think in Hawaii keeping them outside would be great .
For geckoes that climb that cage would be great . It is fantastic looking like zoo type .
08-31-2006 04:26AM View Lia's Profile View Lia's Gallery  

nykon187

Registered: 08/2006
Location: waikiki, HI.
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28 yrs. old, male, chameleon, cichlid lover

First of all Lizardfreak13, and Lia thank you much for your comments, any and all feed back is awesome. I do partly agree this isn't a typical set-up for a Jackson. When I was building this enclosure I was keeping in mind I will be moving back to the mainland in a couple of years, and this will house something else, not exactly sure what yet, but there is alot more species available there. As far as the ventilation goes, the condo I live in is basically a fully open air place on the 19th. floor, so being up that high we get great wind flow through the entire place. I also have a fan mounted in the top hidden in the rock work, so I feel it is pretty well ventilated. And yes the foilage in there at the moment is pretty sparce. I'm in the process of finding some heavier leaved climbing vines, and I will also probably put another tree of some sort in there as well, but I wanted to get some pictures before it was too heavily planted. With saying all that I would like to hear back you you two with your thoughts, if you really think the set-up would be harmful in anyway or really not healthy for a Jackson I'd like to know. Once again thank you for the comments, honestly, and I am looking forward to hearing from you two again.
08-31-2006 06:27AM View nykon187's Profile View nykon187's Gallery  

Ferguson

Registered: 05/2006
Location: Janesville Wisconsin
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Been keeping reptiles for longer then I can remember

Great Cage ,but you should propably get a different lizard or snake for it. The jacksons propably wouldn't appreciate it since they can't really grasp/use the rocks, and the rock work is the charm of the cage. Also they would need a dense area of foliage, and if you are housing more than one they should each have a small tree that would allow them to move from each others sight. You obviously put alot of effort into it and if you want to I'm sure you can make it work out, also, I could be very wrong ,but I could swear I remember reading an old herpetological article saying Jacksons and Veileds were an Invasive species in HAwaii and prohibited from keeping them there Rating: 5/5 
08-31-2006 11:37PM View Ferguson's Profile  

Lia

Registered: 04/2004
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Oh no the set up is in no way hasrmfull for a Jackson a friend of mine has a male in a 50 gallon tank that she caught wild in Miami.
He is doing great . Your set up is great . I read they like lots ventilation but thats fine beats most other habitats .
09-01-2006 01:58AM View Lia's Profile View Lia's Gallery  

nykon187

Registered: 08/2006
Location: waikiki, HI.
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28 yrs. old, male, chameleon, cichlid lover

Ferguson thank you for your comments, like I said in a couple of posts before this, the rock work is definetly not typical in a Jackson set-up, and I am in the process of adding more foilage, but when I move back to the mainland it will definetly house something else. As far Jacksons are concerned here in HI., they are not native. They were introduced in 1972 by a local pet shop owner who got an Hawaiian State AG. licence to import them from Madagascar, or Africa (can't remember which) but as the story goes they arrived in pretty poor shape so he let them all go in his back yard thinking he would re-capture them after they had time to re-coup, not the case, they thrived down here. So now it is legal to own and sell Jackson's. Veiled definetly not legal, and to my knowledge none have been introduced, at least legally. I have heard about alot of seizures on all kinds of species here from snakes, breadies, tarantulas, scorpions, but never any veiled.
09-01-2006 06:24AM View nykon187's Profile View nykon187's Gallery  

nykon187

Registered: 08/2006
Location: waikiki, HI.
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28 yrs. old, male, chameleon, cichlid lover

Lia thank you so much for getting back to me so quickly I do appreciate it. Like I said I know it's not a typical set-up, but I think one would do pretty well in there. Although I have been thinking about maybe not putting a Jackson in there and possibly sticking a couple of Brown Anoles in there instead. I did some research on them, and I think they might be better suited for this set-up with the all the rock work. My options are very limited over here on what I can obtain and keep legally, Brown Anoles being one in a few. Let me know what you think.
Thanks again Matt
09-01-2006 06:35AM View nykon187's Profile View nykon187's Gallery  

lizardfreak13

Registered: 09/2005
Location: San Diego, California
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I love Reptiles

Well, it doesnt matter if you have windows open and stuff as that causes a draft. The best thing for that cage would be a small computer fan to circulate in fresh air for him.

On another note, the rockwall is there for your enjoyment, not the chameleons. There foot structure cant properly grasp it. I know you put time into it, but as of now, its just wasting space in the cage.

One set up you might want to consider, is a free range set up. Pretty much a free range set up is exactly as it sounds. No cage, just one large ficus tree for the chameleon to crawl around on. A VERY stress free enviornment and percfect ventialtion.
09-01-2006 10:38PM View lizardfreak13's Profile  

Ferguson

Registered: 05/2006
Location: Janesville Wisconsin
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Been keeping reptiles for longer then I can remember

This post is very long overdue but, I just wanted to tell anybody interested in free range enclosures that it is very conditional. I remember one enclosure for my very first chameleon. I was a big ficus tree in the middle of my room with vines and decorative plants (ie. bromeliads) surrounding the base. It was enclosed by 12 inch tall plexi with 18 inches from the base in all areas.....The chameleon escaped daily after continually tying to perfect the cage. It never happened. I bet Cosmo has seen more of my house than I have!! Also the tongue is a muscle and if not exercised will become very weak and in an enclosure with no walls the 2 options are dish feeding and hand feeding, neither allow the tongue to be fully stretched. Rating: 5/5 
09-19-2006 09:58PM View Ferguson's Profile