Unknown beauty snake pict. 1

I've seen pics of juvi E.t. ridleyi that looked kinda like this. But i think this one has more pattern, so it could well be a blue-ridleyi intergrade or something

And the yellow snake kinda looks like an intergrade too, I'd say E.t. taeniura X E.t. frisei

Thanks for the thoughts. At this point I myself am leaning more towards the idea that it's an intergrade, although I have no reason yet to rule out graboswskii. IN fact one thing I did just learn is that this snakes tongue color matches that of graboswskii. I'll be doing scale counts soon.

As to the other snake, I will have to investigate that some more as well. It had been sold to me as an E.t. frisei, but I thought the pattern was more like E.t.taeniura, but you certainly could be correct that it may be a mutt. If I ever figure it out with any degree of certainty I will make note of it here.

The bluish one is definatley a cross between a blue beauty and a ridleyi rat snake. I bought a male from Prarieland herpetoculture and have been looking for a female...

Yeah, that is definately the direction I am now leaning. I don't intend on selling mine, but, but if I ever decide to part with it, and it turns out to be a female, I'll try and get word to you.